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Interview 195: Jay Rosner on “A Test – Prep expert explains why he no longer believes in the ACT or the SAT”


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  • Julia does an intro of Jay Rosner, and then Jay goes into more depth about his background
  • Jay explains the mission of the foundation that he works for
  • Jay explains why he went from running a Princeton Review test prep office 35 years ago to someone who has become more opposed to the SAT and the ACT the longer he lives
  • Jay answers the question, isn’t standardized testing the one common benchmark in the file
  • Jay explains why the hierarchal nature of the test is something he finds troubling
  • Jay shares his thoughts on the research Brown and Dartmouth have released supporting their return to requiring the tests. Jay talks about omitting variable bias
  • Jay shares the research done by Saul Giser about what the SAT/ACT test and why he finds it so compelling
  • Jay explains what he believes the motivations are for the elite colleges
  • Jay answers why a highly selective school should not use testing. After all, they need some factor to differentiate where most students have all A’s, embellished recs, and professionally polished writing,
  • Jay rebuts the diamond in the rough theory, which argues that test scores help you to identify strong kids who are not highly resourced
  • We return to challenging Jay’s perspective and
  • Jay explains why “test-free” is better than a school being test-optional
  • Jay explains the history of the SAT and Eugenics
  • Jay shares his advice for someone who is wrestling with whether to take the test
  • Jay shares how many times a student should take the test
  • Jay shares how long a student should prepare in advance of the test, and he shares how much time a day they should be prepping for the SAT or the ACT if they are going to take the test
  • Jay answers the question, “Are the tests coachable?”
  • Jay goes on the hot seat
  • Jay explains what it was like testifying before the Supreme Court
  • Julia shares how Jay has inspired her
  • Jay shares a great story about our own Susan Tree

You can also listen on Episode 450, Episode 452, Episode 454, and Episode 456

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